A much-needed diversion. Plus, I listed to. I always feel as though I’ve been given a brief moment in which to explain myself, to justify my own choices in a kind of secret language which ends up revealing far more about my personality than I might wish other people to know. Lewis’ nonfiction work. This book made me think about how Carl Wilson thinks about Celine Dion, it gives you a lense into a person's view of music as opposed to just history/backstory about an album. But unlike the other books in the 33 ⅓ series, Dion’s album is barely touched upon as Wilson chooses instead to examine what “taste” is and how people form critical opinions in culture. Have I really just spent the last 3 days convincing my friends, loved ones and neighborhood shop keepers how misunderstood and really amazing Celine Dion is?.Thanks to this fantastic book, I have. I devoured criticism from a young age, from the extremely overrated (Lester Bangs) to the grossly underappreciated (Ellen Willis). Along with being a tremendously important piece of criticism, Let s Talk About Love is an agile, moving, and generous exploration of the music that accompanies us, welcome or not, on the travels we all need to make on our own. Why do people like this kind of stuff and not that kind of stuff? Is taste a function of one's upbringing? I. The only thing that it’s still per-se uncool to like (except in a hip, self-aware way) is the mainstream: that thin slice of very popular work (primarily marketed towards middle-aged people) that exists in sort of a null territory–stuff like Two And A Half Men or a Tom Clancy novel. Carl Wilson’s Let’s Talk About Love: A Journey to the End of Taste. Wilson's cursory examinations of taste--that no one's preferences are formed in a vacuum but that we use taste to align ourselves with and distance ourselves from certain socioeconomic groupings--should be apparent without needing research results. My reading record isn't accurate at all anymore, but quite frankly I'm not even sure I even give a damn. Welcome back. He starts by correcting noting that sentimentality is kind of the bogeyman of modern art. We’ve also been liberated by “poptimism,” whose major text, Carl Wilson’s Let’s Talk About Love, has just been reissued. In the opening of the book you are surprised to hear hat the author absolutely hates Celine Dion’s music. For his 2007 critically acclaimed 33 1/3 series title, Let's Talk About Love, Carl Wilson went on a quest to find his inner Céline Dion fan and explore how we define ourselves by what we call good and bad, what we love and what we hate. Not in conversation, anyway. Have I really just spent the last 3 days convincing my friends, loved ones and neighborhood shop keepers how misunderstood and really amazing Celine Dion is?.Thanks to this fantastic book, I have. This is a wonderful book, and the stuff Wilson comes up with near the end is the closest thing I've seen in print to a version of what I feel we should be trying to do with criticism. 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Wilson's cursory examinations of taste--that no one's preferences are formed in a vacuum but that we use taste to align ourselves with and distance ourselves from certain socioeconomic groupings--should be apparent without needing research results. BUY IT! $23.35 . A comforting balm. II. We laud people with ‘good taste’ and revile those with ‘bad taste’. But instead of just whining about it he undertakes what he calls a "Dionyssee" an odyssey to teach himself to love her music. The latest installment in 331/3, the book series that celebrates significant pop records, is unlike any of its predecessors in that its subject, the titular 1997 Céline Dion album, is abhorred by its author. Suffice it to say, Wilson gets something out of the whole endeavor. However, that was taken from, Another re-read (a running theme of this time in our history, perhaps), this is Carl Wilson's great exploration of what "taste" means and why some people have "bad taste." His solution is to spend one hundred and fifty pages teasing out every element of Celine’s possible appeal and of his own distaste. Paperback, 176 pages. As he puts it: “The virtuosity that cool audiences today applaud, the sort Celine always fumbles, is not about having a multioctave voice or flamenco-fast fingers: It’s about being able to manipulate signs and symbols, to hitch them up and decouple them in a blink of an eye, to quote Homer but in the voice of Homer Simpson.”. I'm sorry, but no. Popular music--History and criticism. What defines “good taste”? When I read the Neil Young "Harvest" 33 1/3, I found myself listening to Neil Young constantly... that doesn't happen with this read, at least for me. He remains adamant about what he perceives as the characteristics of Celine’s music–sentimentality, a lack of innovation, and a lack of cultural (and self) awareness. We should all come to judgments about what we like. This book documents Carl Wilson's brave and unprecedented year-long quest to find his inner Celine Dion fan, and explores how we define ourselves in the light of what we call good and bad, what we love and what we … The 33 1/3 series would seem to be pretty much bulletproof in terms of hipster cred. I don’t like talking about my taste in music very much. 3. Growing up in Quebec in the early 2000s, it was difficult to miss her ubiquitous media presence: first, there was, of course, the sheer unavoidability of her nasal intonations at the Carrefour d'Argenteuil shopping mall, outside of La Crémière ice cream, at the local Wal-Mart, on the patios of the pubs downtown, and really anywhere else you could set up a speakers. Shop for Celine Dion Let's Talk About Love: (33 1/3) from WHSmith. Anyone have any good discussion questions for this book? I loved the latter and didn’t even know about the former. Prescriptive based on descriptive is good, I think. I was 12 years old. 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